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Glossary entry

Greek term or phrase:

Υποδιεύθυνση Δίωξης Εγκλημάτων κατά ζωής και ιδιοκτησίας

English translation:

Crimes against Life and Property Subdivision

Added to glossary by Nadia-Anastasia Fahmi
Feb 20, 2016 10:31
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Greek term

Υποδιεύθυνση Δίωξης Εγκλημάτων κατά ζωής και ιδιοκτησίας

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Proposed translations (English)
4 +2 Crimes against Life and Property Subdivision
4 (Branch or Sub-) Agency for Crime against life and Criminal Damage
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Mar 6, 2016 07:29: Nadia-Anastasia Fahmi Created KOG entry

Discussion

Yama144 Nov 28, 2016:
... that is in the UK - if you are referring to criminal law. And anyone can edit a wiki page.
Yama144 Nov 28, 2016:
The CPS deal with prosecution, and I find using the term 'δίωξη' provides clarification, depending on the context.
transphy Feb 24, 2016:
Rubbish! I can call you a 'crook', or 'a bloody foreigner', or a 'thief'. That could be an offence, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY NOT A 'CRIME'. End of my contribution, Mr. Close.
Peter Close Feb 24, 2016:
For Transphy This Internet reference confirms that the words ‘crime’, ‘criminal offence’ and ‘offence’ are used interchangeably to express the same meaning:

http://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_a_cr...

Crimes or offences are generally classified as being serious crimes or serious offences and infractions, and you simply appear to be one of the many people who incorrectly consider the word ‘offence’ to apply only to ‘infractions’, whereas in law, it does not.

These references clarify the matter further:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime
http://wikidiff.com/offense/crime
https://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/about/offense_definitions....
http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/offense_level.htm
transphy Feb 24, 2016:
I did not say that, '...claim that it is in appropriate to describe ‘crimes’ as ‘offences’'
I said, what was proposed that, '“Offences against Crime and Property '' is a nonsense phrase, and I stick by it.
I also said that, 'offences' are NOT necessarily 'crime'. End of story!!
Peter Close Feb 24, 2016:
With regard to Transphy’s claim that it is in appropriate to describe ‘crimes’ as ‘offences’ in English, perhaps he should take a look at all of the references given in:

https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q="prosecution of offen...

and

https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q="prosecution of crimi...

Also, I suggest that Transphy reads the Oxford English Dictionary’s definition of the meaning of the noun ‘crime’, which is:

“An action or omission which constitutes an offence and is punishable by law”.
transphy Feb 24, 2016:
Divisions and Beats: Introduction - The Open University
www.open.ac.uk/Arts/history-from-police-archives/.../dbIntr...
Within the Metropolitan Police Force divisions are indentified by either a one or ... by a division was further divided into sub-divisions; one such example is Carter ...
transphy Feb 24, 2016:

''You could also say, “Offences against Crime and Property Subdivision”. [It is not necessary to add the word ‘Prosecution’ [δίωξη] in English, because any department dealing with crimes or offences would prosecute them].''
It is nonsense to suggest the phrase 'offences against crime'. I could not believe my eyes when I saw it. What does that mean?
It is not a coincidence that, in England the body dealing with crime is called 'The National Crime Agency.' And, for information, 'Offence' and 'Crime' is NOT the same thing. One can commit an 'offence' which is not a 'crime'. There is a lot of disinformation in the discussion, I am sorry to say. The National Crime Agency is divided into various sections, which are called 'divisions' but those are further divided to form 'sub-divisions'. Personally I did not believe that the Greek 'Υποδιεύθυνση' corresponds to an English 'sub-division.( See above)
Nadia-Anastasia Fahmi Feb 24, 2016:
OK I now see the spirit of your discussion entry.
:-)
Peter Close Feb 24, 2016:
Nadia Good morning.
When I made my first discussion entry this morning, I did not intend to imply that the answer you gave is in any way incorrect or inferior to the alternative that I mentioned. In fact, if you Google both alternatives, you will probably find that “Crimes against…” is used much more frequently than “Offences against…”. Also, the “Offences against…” alternative would only really be used in the UK or former UK Commonwealth countries, whereas the “Crimes against…” alternative is used everywhere that English is spoken. That is why I agreed with your answer and did not suggest “Offences against….” as an alternative answer (although it is not incorrect).
Nadia-Anastasia Fahmi Feb 24, 2016:
Hi Peter, After I checked the ELAS site, I also asked a neighbour who is a police officer and he confirmed my reply. This, of course, applies to the English title of the Subdivision used by ELAS.
I don't know what applies in the UK, but this the English translation used by ELAS.
Have a very nice day!
Peter Close Feb 24, 2016:
You could also say, “Offences against Crime and Property Subdivision”. [It is not necessary to add the word ‘Prosecution’ [δίωξη] in English, because any department dealing with crimes or offences would prosecute them].

Τhe Σταμέλος-Χατζημανώλη Dictionary of Legal Terms also confirms offence to be one of the translation alternatives of έγκλημα.

See:

Moreover, the conviction was not based on the ordinary criminal law, but on an .... in particular offences against life and property, as well as offences respecting ...
https://ebooks.cambridge.org/clr/case.jsf?bid=CBO97813161513...

Cases have occurred, under the present law, in which only one copy of a ... to try the most serious offences against life and property, why should it not also be ...
https://books.google.gr/books?id=Ua9LAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA396&lpg=P...

Proposed translations

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Crimes against Life and Property Subdivision

Με βάση το οργανόγραμμα της ΕΛΑΣ

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Όσο για το "Εγκλήματα κατά ζωής και ιδιοκτησίας", πολλές αναφορές εδώ https://www.google.gr/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=&oq="crim...
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agree Peter Close
2 days 41 mins
Thank you Peter!
agree Assimina Vavoula
12 days
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(Branch or Sub-) Agency for Crime against life and Criminal Damage

Crimes Against Life & Humanity! on Pinterest | Prison, Police ...
https://uk.pinterest.com/jekw/crimes-against-life-humanity/
Crimes Against Life & Humanity! Some of the terrible things people do to each other, and to other living things. Exploitation of all kinds. Unimaginable cruelty ...
RA Criminal Code: Crimes against life and health (an extract ...
www.healthrights.am › Lagal Acts
21 Jan 2009 - This is an extract from the Criminal Code of Republic of Armenia which includes Chapter 16 ("Crimes against life and health") of Special Part ...

Criminal Damage: Legal Guidance: The Crown Prosecution ...
www.cps.gov.uk › ... › Legal Guidance › A to C
7 Mar 2011 - Criminal Damage: Legal Guidance produced by The Crown Prosecution Service. ... Section 30 of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 (as amended by the .... of an offence of affray, includes violent conduct towards property.
Criminal Damage - In Brief
www.inbrief.co.uk/offences/criminal-damage.htm
When a case is concerned with damage to property which is criminal the case is brought by the state against that individual in a criminal court. Probably the best ...
Criminal damage and arson - Police.uk
https://www.police.uk/crime-prevention-advice/criminal-damag...
Criminal damage is the intentional and malicious damage to the home, other property or vehicles and includes graffiti. Arson is the act of deliberately setting fire ...

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National Crime Agency - GOV.UK
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/national-crime-a...
The National Crime Agency, also known as the NCA, is a crime-fighting law enforcement agency responsible for leading the UK's fight to cut serious and ...
National Crime Agency could replace police in leading fight ...
www.theguardian.com › World › UK News › Metropolitan police
1 Jan 2016 - It has been leading the fight against organised and serious crime since 2013. Senior MI5 chief in running to lead National Crime Agency.
Q&A: National Crime Agency - BBC News
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24384152
6 Oct 2013 - The UK has launched a new National Crime Agency. What is it and what does it do?
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