| Pages in topic: [1 2] > | Recommend a good GUI-based aligner with correction features Thread poster: Artem Vakhitov
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Can you recommend a good, free or inexpensive GUI-based aligner with alignment correction features?
I mostly use WinAlign from SDL Trados Studio 2011 and like it when it does work, but recently it started to crash on me before even giving me a chance to save/export anything. LFAligner is not bad, but the GUI for corrections is confusing and error-prone. Any other options?
"Inexpensive" is whatever you think it is for a freelancing pro.
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| Thanks for the tip! | Nov 9, 2015 |
Thanks for the tip Andriy,
I didn't know that "Aligner 2.0 Freelance" was free for freelance translators!
Michael
| | | | | Will try ABBYY | Nov 9, 2015 |
Thank you, I've sent a request to ABBYY.
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| ABBYY Aligner: First impressions—Why all the empty paras? | Nov 9, 2015 |
I have downloaded and installed ABBYY Aligner and now am trying to align two documents.
The first thing I've noticed is that while the program produces results quickly, the results contain lots of empty paragraphs inside a segment, which I haven't experienced with WinAlign or LFAligner. Luckily, it does provide an opportunity to delete them using Replace function ("^p" wildcard), but this is rather slow. In fact, the two documents I'm aligning contain about 500,000 characters togeth... See more I have downloaded and installed ABBYY Aligner and now am trying to align two documents.
The first thing I've noticed is that while the program produces results quickly, the results contain lots of empty paragraphs inside a segment, which I haven't experienced with WinAlign or LFAligner. Luckily, it does provide an opportunity to delete them using Replace function ("^p" wildcard), but this is rather slow. In fact, the two documents I'm aligning contain about 500,000 characters together, and the replacement has already taken at least 15 min, and not even half of the work is done, given that the 1st target segment hasn't been replaced yet. ▲ Collapse
| | | | | | | Trying Stingray now | Nov 9, 2015 |
Thanks, trying it now.
| | | | | Stingray results: Negative | Nov 9, 2015 |
I didn't like the initial alignment results with Stingray, nor did I like the correction UI. YMMV.
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| Alignment option | Nov 9, 2015 |
Hi Artem,
It sounds like the documents you are trying to align are rather long; however, if you have documents that are less than ~500 segments you might want to try TM-Town's alignment tool. Here is a video, you can see the GUI tool in action starting around 0:50.
It allows you to drag and drop segments, merge,... See more Hi Artem,
It sounds like the documents you are trying to align are rather long; however, if you have documents that are less than ~500 segments you might want to try TM-Town's alignment tool. Here is a video, you can see the GUI tool in action starting around 0:50.
It allows you to drag and drop segments, merge, split, delete, or edit the text of a segment and the vertical height of the boxes will resize after a change so that the source segment you are looking at on the left will be directly across from the target segment it will be aligned with on the right.
The GUI tool is limited to documents with less than 500 segments as it relies heavily on the performance of your browser (and thus your computer's CPU) to do calculations such as the resizing after a change. Therefore if your documents are large this would not be an option.
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I downloaded b2t a minute ago. It's free and cross-platform. There isn't much more I can tell you about it at this moment, but it looks like this:
Andras' LF_Aligner is pretty good, but for OS X, it lacks the GUI. So far, I prefer Kevin TM-Town's aligner, to the point it's probably worth the effort to split large files, and to merge the resulting TMX files.
Cheers,
Hans
| | | | | It's a worry | Nov 10, 2015 |
We first tried three merged files - more than 400 segments, around 5,000 words - in TM-Town. That wasn't feasible, it took way too long, as predicted by Kevin.
We then used bitext2tmx for the same file. It's horrible. The window is way too small, and the fact that all segments look the same led us (that's my daughter and me, and she does the actual work, of course) to the conclusion that dealing with the separate files in TM-Town would be both a lot faster and a lot better.
... See more We first tried three merged files - more than 400 segments, around 5,000 words - in TM-Town. That wasn't feasible, it took way too long, as predicted by Kevin.
We then used bitext2tmx for the same file. It's horrible. The window is way too small, and the fact that all segments look the same led us (that's my daughter and me, and she does the actual work, of course) to the conclusion that dealing with the separate files in TM-Town would be both a lot faster and a lot better.
We then aligned the files using Andras' LF_Aligner, and did the editing in Heartsome's TMXEditor (also free). That wasn't too bad, except for the fact that TMXEditor lacks basic functionalities like join/split, and move up/down. It was doable, though. On a PC, you can edit the aligned files in LF_Aligner which does have the basic functions TMXEditor is lacking, but the interface looks like bitext2tmx, and as far as I know there's no edit interface at all for OS X (however, there is a choice in the Terminal to "Review", will try that tomorrow).
So far, the conclusion is that TM-Town is superior. There's a strong rumour Kevin is going to allow for batch editing. Now if that is true, and if you can upload large files to align that will then be split for editing, that would be our choice so far. Without a shadow of a doubt.
Cheers,
Hans ▲ Collapse
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| TM-Town aligner updated | Nov 17, 2015 |
Today I released an updated version of TM-Town's alignment tool which should be able to support much longer documents (up to 4,000 segments). It is a lot more lightweight than the previous version (while still maintaining the same functionality) so it should also load smaller documents more quickly as well.
Kevin
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Kevin Dias wrote:
...TM-Town's alignment tool which should be able to support much longer documents
Tried a minute ago with more than 600 TUs/1,200 segments. No problems at all.
Cheers,
Hans
| | | | | Excellent news | Nov 17, 2015 |
Kevin Dias wrote:
Today I released an updated version of TM-Town's alignment tool which should be able to support much longer documents (up to 4,000 segments). It is a lot more lightweight than the previous version (while still maintaining the same functionality) so it should also load smaller documents more quickly as well.
Kevin
Interesting, will try your tool.
| | | | | My take on TM Town alignment tool | Nov 17, 2015 |
Here's what I think about TM-Town alignment tool.
The reference documents I tried it on are fairly large and complex (38,368Kw/3120seg source vs. 46,638Kw/2864seg per TM-Town), but still I think manageable.
What was good:
- Uploading and processing took a reasonable time, smth. like 5 min each document.
- After I clicked Align, alignment results were available real quick, too.
- The UI controls for alignment correction are intuitiv... See more Here's what I think about TM-Town alignment tool.
The reference documents I tried it on are fairly large and complex (38,368Kw/3120seg source vs. 46,638Kw/2864seg per TM-Town), but still I think manageable.
What was good:
- Uploading and processing took a reasonable time, smth. like 5 min each document.
- After I clicked Align, alignment results were available real quick, too.
- The UI controls for alignment correction are intuitive.
Where's the room for improvement:
- Too much space is wasted for the same UI controls and spacing, yet segment fields are too small for the text, so they get scroll bars and I often cannot see the entire content of the segment without scrolling.
- There are too few segments on the page spaced too far from each other, which hurts readability and the context, something that is extremely important when correcting the alignment results as opposed to editing a TM with a loosely related set of segments.
- The initial segment count difference of about 10% got my attention. I looked at the end of the document, and sure enough, it was a mess there with source and target mixed in the target column.
- With operations such as segment splitting, the response time of a control was like several seconds—not acceptable.
I think that this tool has potential, but in the current form it's not quite ready for prime time.
UPDATE:
P.S.: Please disregard point 2 in "Where's the room for improvement". I've just realized that this was caused by a peculiar structure of the final section of the target document which, while making sense from the practical POV, is bound to confuse just about any aligner. Sorry for that.
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