Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
paternalizada
English translation:
supported / fostered / sheltered
Added to glossary by
Richard Boulter
Aug 27, 2008 14:01
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Spanish term
United Kingdom
MSc MITI MCIL Chartered Linguist
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, English
paternalizada
Spanish to English
Bus/Financial
Business/Commerce (general)
Agricultural conference
This appears in the summary of a talk given at a conference for the agricultural sector.
La nota macroeconómica fue dada por XYZ en la última conferencia del Congreso, quien manifestó que la producción agrícola debe verse como actividad económica primaria inserta en una economía moderna, y no como una subsidiada y ***paternalizada***.
Spanish from Mexico for UK English - any ideas?
Thanks in advance!
La nota macroeconómica fue dada por XYZ en la última conferencia del Congreso, quien manifestó que la producción agrícola debe verse como actividad económica primaria inserta en una economía moderna, y no como una subsidiada y ***paternalizada***.
Spanish from Mexico for UK English - any ideas?
Thanks in advance!
Proposed translations
(English)
Change log
Sep 10, 2008 13:13: Richard Boulter Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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20 mins
Richard Boulter
United States
United States
Native in English
Specializes in field
United States
USA English; a decade of experience.
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish
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30
Selected
supported / fostered / sheltered
See if one of these suggestions fits your context, for the amount of government tutelage that is lent according to the source. They are from a translation of a Mexican Small Business Administration case study by Diana Serrano of the University of Guadalajara. To me, this order of suggestions implies an increasing amount of government participation, which may or may not apply to your document's reference to 'paternalizada'.
Good luck.
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Note added at 23 mins (2008-08-27 14:25:10 GMT)
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Thus, perhaps: "...not one that is subsidized and/or sheltered by ..."
Good luck.
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Note added at 23 mins (2008-08-27 14:25:10 GMT)
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Thus, perhaps: "...not one that is subsidized and/or sheltered by ..."
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
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5 mins
Lydia De Jorge
United States
United States
Native in Spanish
&
English
Specializes in field
United States
Don't just say it, say it right!
Native in: Spanish 
, English
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, English, and 1 more.
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175
paternalized
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Note from asker:
| Hi Lydia - I can find no definition of "paternalized" that fits my context. Can you provide any refs to back up this suggestion? Thanks for your help! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
José J. Martínez
: Yes!
2 mins
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| neutral |
María Eugenia Wachtendorff
: Hola, Lydia. El problema es que Rebecca está traduciendo para Inglaterra, donde no se usa el corporate jargon típico de EEUU.
52 mins
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| agree |
jude dabo
: ok
5 hrs
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6 mins
María Eugenia Wachtendorff
Chile
Chile
Native in Spanish
Specializes in field
Chile
40 Years Business, Legal, Certificates
Native in: Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish, Spanish to English
Related KudoZ points
:
292
subject to paternalism
Hi, Rebecca!
My suggestion :)
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Note added at 9 mins (2008-08-27 14:10:59 GMT)
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They are criticizing paternalistic practices. To the best of my knowledge, "paternalised" is not an English term.
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Note added at 11 mins (2008-08-27 14:13:26 GMT)
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pa·ter·nal·ism (pə-tûr'nə-lĭz'əm)
n.
A policy or practice of treating or governing people in a fatherly manner, especially by providing for their needs without giving them rights or responsibilities.
paternalist pa·ter'nal·ist adj. & n.
paternalistic pa·ter'nal·is'tic adj.
paternalistically pa·ter'nal·is'ti·cal·ly adv.
Source: Answers.com
My suggestion :)
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Note added at 9 mins (2008-08-27 14:10:59 GMT)
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They are criticizing paternalistic practices. To the best of my knowledge, "paternalised" is not an English term.
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Note added at 11 mins (2008-08-27 14:13:26 GMT)
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pa·ter·nal·ism (pə-tûr'nə-lĭz'əm)
n.
A policy or practice of treating or governing people in a fatherly manner, especially by providing for their needs without giving them rights or responsibilities.
paternalist pa·ter'nal·ist adj. & n.
paternalistic pa·ter'nal·is'tic adj.
paternalistically pa·ter'nal·is'ti·cal·ly adv.
Source: Answers.com
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20 mins
Marian Jaén
Spain
Spain
Native in Spanish
Spain
All is possible in that life
Native in: Spanish
Works in: Spanish to English, German to Spanish, Valencia to Spanish, and 3 more.
paternal
la ultima frase seria más o menos asi: a moder economy, not subsidiary and paternal from....
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
María Eugenia Wachtendorff
: Entiendo tu idea, pero habría que decir "subsidizing and paternalistic"
35 mins
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1 hr
(a subsidiary activity) subject to patronization
I don't think that this is referring to the English paternal which doesn't seem appropriate in this situation. I think it is saying that agricultural production shouldn't be seen as a second tier industry that needs to be patronized to.
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patronized.
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-08-27 15:15:51 GMT)
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patronized.
2 hrs
Steven Huddleston
Mexico
Mexico
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&
English
Specializes in field
Mexico
Dual-Native English & Spanish Translator
Native in: English (Variants: Canadian, British, UK, US) , Spanish (Variants: Standard-Spain, US, Ecuadorian , Dominican, Latin American, Peruvian, Colombian, Uruguayan, Cuban, Puerto Rican, Argentine, Chilean, Venezuelan, Costa Rican, Mexican)
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish
Related KudoZ points
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20
patronized
Perhaps this is a better word for England...
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protected
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