Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Kubatur
English translation:
spatial configuration
Added to glossary by
mill2
Aug 29, 2014 16:56
9 yrs ago
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German term
Kubatur
German to English
Art/Literary
Architecture
From the voice-over narration in a documentary film about the Konzerthaus Berlin.
Der schinkelsche Theaterbau kann schon durch seine ganz anderen funktionellen Anforderungen kaum als Vorlage für ein Konzerthaus dienen. Vor allem innen gibt es zu viel Platz für Kulissen und zu wenig für das Publikum. Eine völlig neue *Kubatur* muss geschaffen werden.
The context goes on to make it clear that the building was gutted and given an entirely new interior with different dimensions than the original.
The English term cubature does not seem to be used in architecture the same way as it is in German. I've been playing around with "what was needed were entirely new dimensions" (as per the last time this term was posted on proz) but am not totally convinced.
Der schinkelsche Theaterbau kann schon durch seine ganz anderen funktionellen Anforderungen kaum als Vorlage für ein Konzerthaus dienen. Vor allem innen gibt es zu viel Platz für Kulissen und zu wenig für das Publikum. Eine völlig neue *Kubatur* muss geschaffen werden.
The context goes on to make it clear that the building was gutted and given an entirely new interior with different dimensions than the original.
The English term cubature does not seem to be used in architecture the same way as it is in German. I've been playing around with "what was needed were entirely new dimensions" (as per the last time this term was posted on proz) but am not totally convinced.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +1 | floor plan |
Lancashireman
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| 3 +2 | spatial profile |
Helen Shiner
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Proposed translations
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floor plan
create a new floor plan (doesn't quite do justice to the third dimension of height)
reallocate the available space
come up with a new layout
I'm thinking that Kubatur could be yet another candidate to add to the long list of German nouns that can be translated with the all-embracing English design (yuk)
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubatur
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Note added at 18 hrs (2014-08-30 11:23:08 GMT)
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Just found this:
spatial configuration
http://www.lyr-a.ch/en/projects/6531/KARMA-INTERNATIONAL-GAL...
The concept for the new exhibition space of Karma Int. is determined by two fundamental preconditions: an undefined spatial setting without the possibility to display contemporary art and a minimal budget of the young gallery.
Three L-shaped walls, inserted without touching the existing walls, create a new spatial configuration that allows multiple forms of display. The grid like array of neon establishes a spatial continuity and creates a neutral and controlled atmosphere.
Or you could include 3D in words:
create a new three-dimensional layout
reallocate the available space
come up with a new layout
I'm thinking that Kubatur could be yet another candidate to add to the long list of German nouns that can be translated with the all-embracing English design (yuk)
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubatur
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Note added at 18 hrs (2014-08-30 11:23:08 GMT)
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Just found this:
spatial configuration
http://www.lyr-a.ch/en/projects/6531/KARMA-INTERNATIONAL-GAL...
The concept for the new exhibition space of Karma Int. is determined by two fundamental preconditions: an undefined spatial setting without the possibility to display contemporary art and a minimal budget of the young gallery.
Three L-shaped walls, inserted without touching the existing walls, create a new spatial configuration that allows multiple forms of display. The grid like array of neon establishes a spatial continuity and creates a neutral and controlled atmosphere.
Or you could include 3D in words:
create a new three-dimensional layout
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: One of those near-untranslatable words. I like the fact that the Wikipedia entry has a picture showing the "Kubatur einer Kugel".
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Cilian O'Tuama
: I agree you need to get the 3D element in there somewhere
6 hrs
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Yes, I know. Floor plan = length x width. Profile = height x width. Also two-dimensional. Thinking caps back on.
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Helen Shiner
: Have to disagree with spatial configuration, since it is about the division of space within a given building/room, whereas Kubatur is about the overall shape of the mass of the building./Probably lack of familiarity with architectural terminology then.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I ended up using spatial configuration. Thanks to all who contributed!"
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Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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Arts/Academic translator - Art historian
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English
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spatial profile
In this context, I think I would go with this. It is literally the cubic volume but seen in design terms rather than merely dimensions.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=OcFkSSL0haEC&pg=PT620&dq=...
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zcs4BCXwBm8C&pg=PA40&dq="...
The term can be used to describe the interior use of space or the external configuration of the architectural volumes that make up a building.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=OcFkSSL0haEC&pg=PT620&dq=...
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zcs4BCXwBm8C&pg=PA40&dq="...
The term can be used to describe the interior use of space or the external configuration of the architectural volumes that make up a building.
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: Good idea.
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Thanks, Phil; it came up in a recent translation so went through the hoops then.
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Cilian O'Tuama
: I think I can imagine/picture what the German Kubatur might mean. "Spatial profile" doesn't conjure up a similiar image, for me.
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Sorry to hear that. It works for me and the links I provide. Will look forward to hearing how you conceive of it.
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Horst Huber (X)
: Wenn schon Quadratur des Kreises, dann auch Kubatur des Globus.
2 days 8 hrs
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Thanks, Horst
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Discussion
The public space was in relation to the artistic space out of scale