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Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

Managing locations

French translation:

gestion des emplacements

Added to glossary by GILLES MEUNIER
Jul 1, 2015 15:33
8 yrs ago
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English term

Managing locations

English to French Tech/Engineering IT (Information Technology) Telematics/vehicle track
Voici le contexte:

*Managing locations*:
Click on the locations icon
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Please click on the locations icon to select which locations should be displayed on the map.
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Je sais que quelqu'un a proposé "gestion des localisations" mais ce terme ne me satisfait pas.

J'hésite à mettre "Gestion des sites" parce que le mot "sites" en anglais se retrouve ailleurs dans le texte et je ne voudrais pas traduire les deux termes "sites" and "locations" par le même mot français.

Que pensent les experts du terme " Gestion des emplacements" ? Cela se dit en bon français de géolocalisation ?

Je serais vraiment reconnaissante de vos contributions!
Proposed translations (French)
5 +1 gestion des emplacements
4 +1 gestion des lieux géographiques
3 +1 gestion des localisations
3 gestion des sites géographiques
Change log

Jul 2, 2015 06:11: Emanuela Galdelli changed "Field (write-in)" from "Telematics/ VEHICLE TRACK" to "Telematics/vehicle track"

Jul 7, 2015 04:44: GILLES MEUNIER Created KOG entry

Discussion

Platary (X) Jul 2, 2015:
Si je vois des références à l'Afrique du sud dans les explications du client, je crois savoir de quelle application il est question et "location" dans la version allemande est "Standort" et "emplacement" dans la version française actuelle. Ce que je crains est que la version anglaise ne soit écrite directement par les développeurs allemands... Pour moi, c'est le texte allemand qui devrait faire foi, mais je me trompe peut-être d'application. Cela pourrait se vérifier par message privé.
Cassandra Delacote (asker) Jul 2, 2015:
I first want to thank everyone who has made such an effort to help me with this term. As I still felt unsure of the right translation, I questioned the client, who sent this response (I don't understand the response very well either). In the light of the explanation below, would any of you like to propose a new translation ?

A site is not a location.

The way “Site” is used in this UI is for example a company/organisation is the highest level and the next would be sites. As such a site is a branch i.e. Johannesburg, Cape Town, Rustenburg and so on.

A location is a area that has been demarcated on the underlying map and may refer to items such as Customer (point on the map), No go area (extended area such as an industrial area) or a line (where a road that is not on the map is added)
Madeleine Chevassus Jul 2, 2015:
@ Asker s'agit-il de supervision (de systèmes etc) ou de géolocalisation?
Dans le premier cas, il y a une phase de "discovery" des systèmes distants, puis affichage sur la carte etc.
Dans le second cas (géolocalisation), ce dernier terme n'apparait même pas dans le "contexte".
Tony M Jul 1, 2015:
@ Asker Please could you clarify the context please? F-X seems to have found for us something that is rather different from what I at least had been assuming from the scant context you have been giving us.
Platary (X) Jul 1, 2015:
Tout dépend de ce que cette fonction affiche réellement sur la carte. Cela peut être des emplacements, des sites, des localisations, des endroits, des zones, etc. Localisation paraît de ce fait être un bon choix.

Proposed translations

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gestion des emplacements

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Note added at 4 minutes (2015-07-01 15:37:53 GMT)
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si vous n'aimez pas localisation

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Note added at 8 minutes (2015-07-01 15:42:22 GMT)
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http://www.a7protection.fr/cat_part/catalogue3.pdf
Peer comment(s):
neutral Tony M : Your ref. only appears to mention 'gestion de l'emplacement parking'...?
4 hrs
et alors, location = emplacement
agree Madeleine Chevassus : oui, dans le sens "gestion des sites et appareils distants"
17 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you for this answer!"
11 mins

gestion des sites géographiques

Gestion des sites géographiques, gestion des lieux
Peer comment(s):
neutral Tony M : In the light of Asker's feedback from the customer, this seems unsuitable, due to the possibly conflicting meanings of 'site'
1 day 4 hrs
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4 hrs

gestion des localisations

Yes, I think your original idea was correct — assuming it is talking about 'the current location of the vehicle', and given that 'géolocalisation' is the term used in FR for finding the 'localisation géographique' of something, I don't really see how you can get away from it.

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If this 'location' is talking about the (temporary) location of a vehicle that moves about, I really don't see how you can translate that by 'site', which in any case you have already rejected for other reasons.

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Working FR > EN, I very often encounter contexts where 'localisation' translates well as 'location', and I think this is a good example in the reverse direction.

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Well, for a start, it is obvious they are talking about multiple different locations for different vehicles; this is probably not a very natural way of expressing the same idea in FR.

Also, you might have got better results from trying a different search: I tried it using 'de' and 'localisation' in the singular, and got 300,000 hits! This one sounds close to your context:

Gestion de véhicules spéciaux - Technologies CDWare

www.technologiescdware.com/index.php?show_aux...

Gestion de localisation. Suivi en temps réel position et parcours des véhicules. Voyez en temps réel la position GPS et les parcours des véhicules ou de ...

But of course, there they ARE talking about 'managing location' in general, rather than a number of specific locations.

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Note added at 4 heures (2015-07-01 20:03:43 GMT)
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But then here's a FR example using 'localisations' in the plural, in a very similar context:

pour les véhicules aériens - Reverso Context

context.reverso.net/traduction/francais-anglais/pour+les+véhicules+aériens

la radio est configurée pour recevoir les localisations des véhicules aériens, recevoir les localisations d'autres véhicules terrestres et diffuser une localisation du ...

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I think it's hardly surprising you found no hits for "gestion des localisations" on Google.fr, since it is clearly a phrase that is very specific to the software you are dealing with; it might well be called by a different name in someone else's software...


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OK, well my suggestions above still stand in other contexts, but thanks to F-X, we now know what YOUR context is, Asker — and of course it's quite different, so I've been wasting my time barking up the wrong tree!
Note from asker:
Thank you for your comments! The reason I do not like "localisations" is that I do not think it is the correct translation for "locations". I can only envisage it as a word in the singular form. But I could be wrong about this. I have found no hits for "gestion des localisations" on google.fr
Sorry about that, I am in a context that I don't know very well myself.
Peer comment(s):
agree HERBET Abel : c'est sur une carte donc OK
4 hrs
Merci, Abel ! :-)
neutral GILLES MEUNIER : Je lui avait proposé dans une autre question, elle n'en voulait pas.....
14 hrs
Merci, Gilles ! It seems that the context is slowly being discovered...
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1 hr

gestion des lieux géographiques

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Note added at 5 hrs (2015-07-01 21:12:24 GMT)
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pic adding a location : http://oi57.tinypic.com/28l98d0.jpg

vid : https://uk.mixtelematics.com/help/hmfile_hash_2d82998f.mp4
Peer comment(s):
agree Tony M : In the light of Asker's customer fedback, it now seems a general term like this is the only solution to cover such a wide range of possible 'locations'; in essence, they are using it to mean 'a place'
3 hrs
it's not where the vehicle is at the moment, but locations as in "city" - watch the vid : https://uk.mixtelematics.com/help/hmfile_hash_2d82998f.mp4
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