Sep 27, 2022 15:21
1 yr ago
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French term
staurothèque
French to English
Art/Literary
Religion
Mediaeval reliquaries
Bonjour, je traduis un texte sur l'art religieux du Moyen Âge et tombe sur ce terme. Je n'ai trouvé que staurotheke comme traduction, ce qui ne me satisfait pas. Il n'y a pas vraiment de contexte, c'est plutôt une légende. Clairement; l'image montre un reliquaire avec une croix enluminée dessus, dont je sais ce que c'est, mais le terme officiel en anglais.
Très obscure, j'avoue .... si vous pouvez m'aider tant mieux !!
Très obscure, j'avoue .... si vous pouvez m'aider tant mieux !!
Proposed translations
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4 +8 | staurotheke | philgoddard |
Proposed translations
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staurotheke
staurotheke (plural staurothekes)
A reliquary containing fragments of the True Cross
http://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/staurotheke
I would follow it with a definition, since no one will know what it means.
A reliquary containing fragments of the True Cross
http://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/staurotheke
I would follow it with a definition, since no one will know what it means.
Note from asker:
Inclined to agree (see my previous comment). Thanks. |
I can't really grade these answers - they are all part of the big picture ! Thanks to everyone! |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Anastasia Kalantzi
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neutral |
Emmanuella
: https://www.collinsdictionary.com/jp/submission/24468/stauro...
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agree |
liz askew
: https://www.holyart.co.uk/religious-items/sacred-icons/ancie...
10 mins
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agree |
Samuël Buysschaert
: Could maybe also use the latin word "Staurotheca" in relation to Middle Ages and the Church (with a footnote or definition as you mentioned)
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agree |
Cyril Tollari
4 hrs
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agree |
ezpz
4 hrs
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agree |
ph-b (X)
: Yes, but no definition needed just because "no one will know what it means": any intelligent reader finding a word they don't understand will look it up. No dumbing-down, please.
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What's the point of making your readers reach for the dictionary? Your job is to make their lives as easy as possible. But thanks for agreeing.
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AllegroTrans
: This is correct and you should receive the points. I would not add a definition or translator's note to this - the word is there on the web to be found.
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agree |
SafeTex
: What else could it be. When you have two similar and very uncommon words in two different languages and two definitions that are very close, you don't waste time looking for alternatives
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you !!"
Reference comments
27 mins
Reference:
stauros “cross” and theke “container”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limburg_Staurotheke
The Limburg Staurotheke (from Greek, stauros “cross” and theke “container”) is an example of a Byzantine reliquary, one of the best surviving examples of Byzantine enamel, in the cloisonné technique. It was made sometime in the mid to late 10th century in Constantinople. The box measures 48 centimeters by 35 centimeters and has a depth of 6 centimeters. This reliquary design was common in Byzantium beginning in the 9th century.[1] It was probably brought to Germany as loot from the Fourth Crusade, and is now in the diocesan museum of Limburg an der Lahn in Hesse, Germany.
The Limburg Staurotheke consists of two parts that were made at separate times. The removable, double-armed cross was made first and holds seven fragments of the True Cross in the middle of the cross where its main set of arms meets.[2] The cross is made out of sycamore wood and is entirely covered in gilded silver and embellished with gemstones and pearls. Inscribed on the back of the cross is the following verse:[3]
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Note added at 42 λεπτά (2022-09-27 16:03:33 GMT)
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You're most welcome. Have a nice evening ahead and a healthy and peaceful wintertime!
The Limburg Staurotheke (from Greek, stauros “cross” and theke “container”) is an example of a Byzantine reliquary, one of the best surviving examples of Byzantine enamel, in the cloisonné technique. It was made sometime in the mid to late 10th century in Constantinople. The box measures 48 centimeters by 35 centimeters and has a depth of 6 centimeters. This reliquary design was common in Byzantium beginning in the 9th century.[1] It was probably brought to Germany as loot from the Fourth Crusade, and is now in the diocesan museum of Limburg an der Lahn in Hesse, Germany.
The Limburg Staurotheke consists of two parts that were made at separate times. The removable, double-armed cross was made first and holds seven fragments of the True Cross in the middle of the cross where its main set of arms meets.[2] The cross is made out of sycamore wood and is entirely covered in gilded silver and embellished with gemstones and pearls. Inscribed on the back of the cross is the following verse:[3]
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Note added at 42 λεπτά (2022-09-27 16:03:33 GMT)
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You're most welcome. Have a nice evening ahead and a healthy and peaceful wintertime!
Note from asker:
Thanks, that confirms the unfolding solution |
I can't really grade these answers - they are all part of the big picture ! Thanks to everyone! |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree |
ezpz
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Thanks, ezpz.
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agree |
AllegroTrans
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Thanks, Allegro.
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