Apr 6, 2023 16:08
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French term
25 years experience
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, Italian to English, Spanish to English
pêche aux surprises
French to English
Other
Tourism & Travel
Leisure/General conversation
Au programme : pêche aux surprises, chamboule-tout, pose de bijoux éphémères, atelier maquillage. Tirage de la tombola à 17h. Buvette et gâteaux faits
This term "pêche aux surprises" appears in the above list of activities in a fête. I have been able to find coconut shy and face-painting station but can't find the meaning of this term. I had thought of "lucky dip" but that seems to be "pochette surprises"
Can anyone help?
This term "pêche aux surprises" appears in the above list of activities in a fête. I have been able to find coconut shy and face-painting station but can't find the meaning of this term. I had thought of "lucky dip" but that seems to be "pochette surprises"
Can anyone help?
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Apr 6, 2023 22:08: writeaway changed "Field (write-in)" from "General conversation" to "Leisure/General conversation"
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Jennifer Levey
Chile
Chile
Native in English
Chile
Human-scale Globalization
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
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hook a duck
https://www.larep.fr/gien-45500/loisirs/gros-plan-sur-ces-fo...
La Foire des cours de Gien, Malla s'y sent comme chez lui. « J'ai 46 ans et ça fait 46 ans que je viens. Mes grands-parents y venaient, mes parents y venaient, moi, j'y viens et mon fils, lui aussi, est là. Je crois que dans la famille, ça fait bien 100 ans qu'on fait la Foire des cours, à Gien. Mon grand-père, né en 1901, avait des manèges et une pêche aux surprises, l'équivalent aujourd'hui de la pêche aux canards.
https://www.hillhouse-nursinghome.co.uk/2020/05/27/fun-at-th...
May 27, 2020 — Hill House this week hosted a village Fete. ... we enjoyed activities alfresco, hook a duck is a traditional fete game and was enjoyed by ...
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See first photo in the 2nd webref. The 'surprise' is that when a kid manages to 'hook a duck' they win a prize that corresponds to a number on the bottom of the duck (rubber ducks in my day - now presumably made of recycled plastic).
La Foire des cours de Gien, Malla s'y sent comme chez lui. « J'ai 46 ans et ça fait 46 ans que je viens. Mes grands-parents y venaient, mes parents y venaient, moi, j'y viens et mon fils, lui aussi, est là. Je crois que dans la famille, ça fait bien 100 ans qu'on fait la Foire des cours, à Gien. Mon grand-père, né en 1901, avait des manèges et une pêche aux surprises, l'équivalent aujourd'hui de la pêche aux canards.
https://www.hillhouse-nursinghome.co.uk/2020/05/27/fun-at-th...
May 27, 2020 — Hill House this week hosted a village Fete. ... we enjoyed activities alfresco, hook a duck is a traditional fete game and was enjoyed by ...
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See first photo in the 2nd webref. The 'surprise' is that when a kid manages to 'hook a duck' they win a prize that corresponds to a number on the bottom of the duck (rubber ducks in my day - now presumably made of recycled plastic).
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Tony M
: The trouble is, this game is usually called 'pêche aux canards' in FR. I once saw a lovely little toddler who got fed up not hooking them — so he just reached down and grabbed one! / Yes, but I wonder used in this modern? source text?
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Did you read the bit in bold in the quote from the my first webref? It's the same game.
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Anastasia Kalantzi
: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hook-a-duck Yes, it might as well be that particular game..
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Helen Shiner
: No ducks. Watch the video linked below.
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AllegroTrans
: Similar but different
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Comment: "Thanks to everyone for their help. I have selected this term as it seemed to be the most understandable to an English audience, though in the end I used "game of skill and chance" to make the meaning clearer in the context. Lots of interesting information, though, so thanks again to everyone."
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philgoddard
United States
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United States
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Fishing for Surprises
See the discussion box.
We don't know exactly what this looks like, but a literal translation is fine. This one involves balloons in a paddling pool:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xuk9m0CjK0k
(I don't normally link to videos, but you only have to watch the first couple of seconds.)
We don't know exactly what this looks like, but a literal translation is fine. This one involves balloons in a paddling pool:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xuk9m0CjK0k
(I don't normally link to videos, but you only have to watch the first couple of seconds.)
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Helen Shiner
: Maybe fishing for prizes rather than surprises
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Lisa Barrett
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Fr>En Translator, Culture and Tourism
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: French to English
A lucky fishpond/ a lucky fish/ lucky fishing
I can't think of an English equivalent, having never come across this variant of the game in England, but I think the above would conjure it up for me.
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Tony M
: None of these options really sounds natural or idiomatic in EN.
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AllegroTrans
: Never heard of any of these as fairground-type games but I suppose they could be used somewhere or other
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Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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lucky dip
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lucky_dip
If you need a UK-English solution, this is what we would say. In very common usage.
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https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/lucky-di...
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How about ‘pool lucky dip’
If you need a UK-English solution, this is what we would say. In very common usage.
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https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/lucky-di...
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How about ‘pool lucky dip’
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philgoddard
: The consensus in the discussion box seems to be that water is involved.
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Ok, not clear in the text.
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Tony M
: It doesn't really matter what the exact form is, this is a correct generic translation.
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Thanks, Tony
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Anastasia Kalantzi
: It really looks just like the french fishing pool in a certain way.
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Thanks, Anastasia
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AllegroTrans
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Thanks, AllegroTrans
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Jennifer Levey
: A traditional 'lucky dip' is something else entirely: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lucky_dip
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I know what a lucky dip is, thanks; the context was not clear when I posted my first suggestion.
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catch a present, fish for loot bags
This is from Oz.
" ‘Fishing’ for Loot Bags – Wrap small presents (multicoloured pencils, mini cars etc) and sticky tape a metal washer to each one. Make a ‘fishing line’ with a rod and a short piece of string and attach a small magnet to the end of it. The children stand on a small stool/chair and fish to catch a present."
https://brisbanekids.com.au/20-fun-party-games-for-toddlers/
The terms would also work for the same principle in water (though maybe with rings and hooks, like Hook a Duck, rather than magnets and durex (what Australians used to call Sellotape until they found themselves waxing instead of contracepting)).
" ‘Fishing’ for Loot Bags – Wrap small presents (multicoloured pencils, mini cars etc) and sticky tape a metal washer to each one. Make a ‘fishing line’ with a rod and a short piece of string and attach a small magnet to the end of it. The children stand on a small stool/chair and fish to catch a present."
https://brisbanekids.com.au/20-fun-party-games-for-toddlers/
The terms would also work for the same principle in water (though maybe with rings and hooks, like Hook a Duck, rather than magnets and durex (what Australians used to call Sellotape until they found themselves waxing instead of contracepting)).
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Conor McAuley
: Your answer made me chuckle out loud, thanks! Australian letters... / I was joking about French letters (condoms)... / I'm old enough to remember having my PO Savings Book stamped. Simpler times.
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Those were the days, when the lady at the post office rubber stamped your letters to France.
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Fish a gift
It's my own invention but I think this would sound better, more catchy (pardon the pun) than fishing for /presents/ or /surprises/ and it would be suitable for any variation of the game.
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Rosemary Soroos
Ireland
Ireland
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Ireland
Accurate and clear communication
Native in: English (Variants: Irish, US, British) 
Works in: German to English, French to English
Fishing Hole / Fish Pond
I've seen this game at American county/state fairs, where it's called Fishing Hole or Fish Pond.
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Anastasia Kalantzi
Greece
Greece
Works in field
Greece
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Native in: Greek (Variant: Modern) , Greek (Ancient) (Variants: Homeric, Ionic, Aeolic, Koine (common), Doric)
Works in: French to Greek, Greek to French, English to Greek, and 5 more.
Reference:
PÊCHE AUX SURPRISES DANS LA PISCINE
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Helen Shiner
: I would call that fishing for prizes as I suggested under Phil’s answer. Or lucky fishing or similar./ :-)
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Merci bien. On a joué à peu prés comme ça avec mes petits-enfants dans la piscine d'un hôtel et c'était chouette!
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AllegroTrans
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Merci bien!
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Discussion
https://www.resourcecentre.org.uk/equipment/surprise-fishing...
Anyway, my understanding of the game, is that "pêche" might not necessarily involve actual angling--although most of the time it does whether in water or not. In other contexts, "pêcher" can have a completely symbolic usage (the sense of choosing, picking, randomly or not). I vote hook-a-duck on a conservative estimate ( even if there are no ducks).
http://www.spectacle-animation-centre.fr/les-animations/la-p...
@Emmanuella Oui exact aussi,
il existe différentes façons de réaliser cette activité, l'important c'est de rester sur l'idée d'un jeu de pêche à la ligne (dans le style "Hook A Duck"), je ne sais pas s'il existe un nom pour cette variante avec les pochettes surprises en EN.
De mon temps, on emballait les surprises dans du papier que l'on ficelait au mieux ...
Les enfants doivent ensuite pêcher un lot et obtiennent la surprise associé au lot pêché.
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D'accord avec Charles qui a été plus rapide :)
Je ne peux pas vous aider pour le terme anglais. En revanche, je peux vous dire ce que je comprends en lisant « pêche aux surprises ». Il s'agit sans doute d'un bassin (du genre petite piscine gonflable) dans lequel flottent des pochettes-surprises que les enfants peuvent attraper avec des cannes à pêche.