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Remove inclusive format (Staff: we'll rename it to "concise")
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Philip Lees
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Prerogative Oct 18, 2023

Thomas T. Frost wrote:

And you remain silent as to the abuse of the format by some Proz staff. Whose interests are you really serving? Those of the staff or those of your paying members and other users? Are you a schoolmaster or a service provider? I'm not really sure any more.


Henry has made it clear, both in his posts here and in his response to a complaint of mine in another thread (which he has now locked) that:

  1. it is a moderator's prerogative to put an end to a discussion if they don't like what people are saying, and
  2. changing the discussion format to the misleadingly named "Inclusive" is an appropriate way to accomplish this.

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Couldn't agree more with Thomas and Philip Oct 18, 2023

Frankly speaking, this is a joke.
When Lucia changed the format of a very active (not abusive!) discussion about the introduction of ChatGPT into KudoZ, without answering any critical questions before doing so, there was no surge of new posters just waiting for their chance to be heard. Instead the thread went silent.

And now Henry asked Ice Scream in his own inclusive (restrictive) thread to further explain his comment - without realising that he can't do that because the li
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Frankly speaking, this is a joke.
When Lucia changed the format of a very active (not abusive!) discussion about the introduction of ChatGPT into KudoZ, without answering any critical questions before doing so, there was no surge of new posters just waiting for their chance to be heard. Instead the thread went silent.

And now Henry asked Ice Scream in his own inclusive (restrictive) thread to further explain his comment - without realising that he can't do that because the limit of postings is already reached? Oh well ...

Please don't claim this is for the benefit of translators and read what people say, have a close look at the comments to ChatGPT's answers and maybe even read the following article (which is actually very funny):
https://apnews.com/article/artificial-intelligence-chatgpt-fake-case-lawyers-d6ae9fa79d0542db9e1455397aef381c

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Tom in London
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. Oct 18, 2023

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You win the Internet, Philip Oct 18, 2023

Philip Lees wrote:

Zea_Mays wrote:

Did Proz's forum mods quit the job, and you are going to reply to all the open questions?


Perhaps Henry is like one of those periodical cicadas that stay underground for years, then emerge for a few days to engage in furious propagation, before disappearing again.


 
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It's over Oct 18, 2023

https://hmpg.net/

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"Treat people as good as you are" Oct 18, 2023

Tom in London wrote:

expressisverbis wrote:

And you need to stop that kind of comments.


Rude

I'm not sure I like your tone.


Isn't calling someone out for rudeness another example of a rude action? If I may ask...
There's nothing rude about what I wrote above. That thread you mentioned is perfectly in line with Proz's mission.
We all have doubts and it's totally acceptable to seek help from our colleagues. The author of that thread just condensed it into a single one.
You're free not to like that "format", but implying the subtitling topic should be "restrictive" is the same as limiting learning.
And now please let me tell you something...
Many situations require an aggressive approach, but I personally avoid this as much as possible, since this screams immaturity and more if acted in front of people.
So, because of that, I'm convinced that every choice we make has consequences and we can see changes and effects on how people perceive us in future.
I've a good memory, and I've never been rude to any member on this site, including you.
I believe in the saying "Don't treat people as bad as they are, but treat them as good as you are". Sometimes I think I could be harmed for thinking like that.
I hope you are sure now.

P.S.: About those images with tea, kettle and more. Did you know that we also have funny idioms with these terms that could adapt very well to this context?


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Closing out this topic Oct 18, 2023

OK, we'll rename "inclusive" to "concise", thanks for the suggestion.

Obviously we don't have any intention of getting rid of the "format", which we and others use when we feel it is appropriate. I'm closing out this thread.


 
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